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Les supporters canadiens porteront du noir pour protester l'ACS.
"Black Wednesday": Canada-Costa Rica le 12 septemb
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Re: "Black Wednesday": Canada-Costa Rica le 12 sep
Ouais!Daniel a écrit :Les supporters canadiens porteront du noir pour protester l'ACS.
18 types habillés en noir dans le coin du stade, ça va faire un effet boeuf.
Tous les médias vont en parler.
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Re: "Black Wednesday": Canada-Costa Rica le 12 sep
Encore la, c'est s'ils parlent du match...Mpenza a écrit :Ouais!Daniel a écrit :Les supporters canadiens porteront du noir pour protester l'ACS.
18 types habillés en noir dans le coin du stade, ça va faire un effet boeuf.
Tous les médias vont en parler.
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Re: "Black Wednesday": Canada-Costa Rica le 12 sep
Il devrait avoir une bonne proportion des supps reguliers des matches du TFC qui sont avertis.Mpenza a écrit :Ouais!Daniel a écrit :Les supporters canadiens porteront du noir pour protester l'ACS.
18 types habillés en noir dans le coin du stade, ça va faire un effet boeuf.
Tous les médias vont en parler.
C'est clair que les medias d'ici n'en parleront pas (c'est juste l'equipe nationale!
), mais les medias anglos ont eu plusieurs articles sur la demission de Linford et je serais surpris si cette manifestation ne soit pas mentionne dans quelques resumes de match, sans mentionner a la tele.-
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D'ailleurs, le Ottawa Citizen en parle deja:
Richard Starnes
The Ottawa Citizen
Saturday, September 01, 2007
If you were driving through downtown Ottawa earlier this week and you heard a loud bang followed by huge clouds of black smoke, it was because the roof had just caved in on the Canadian Soccer Association's Metcalfe Street headquarters.
Colin Linford's abrupt and unhappy resignation had sent and still is sending waves of disgruntled reaction through soccer circles, not only in Ottawa, but also across the country.
Revolt was in the air. How to be revolting, though, that was the question?
Then, on Thursday night, I found a blue print for change from Australia, a country that until Jan. 1, 2005, ran its national soccer association in very much the same way as Canada does.
State associations ran their states and held all the power at the national level, too. It was a recipe for mediocrity and conflict, and Australia was, indeed, a mediocre soccer nation.
Just like here, there was mass support for the game at the grassroots, but it never translated into national success. Just like here, Australia -- the Socceroos as they call them -- was condemned to international backwaters.
How familiar that sounds.
The Crawford Report -- ordered by the Australian government and completed by four independent committee members, including the retired national chairman of KPMG -- was the catalyst for change.
The report said a series of incidents had highlighted the critical state of soccer in Australia: the Socceroos failed to qualify for the World Cup or Confederations Cup because there was no money to bring European-based players back for matches; an Australian Broadcasting Corp. investigation found conflicts of interest and mismanagement at board level; constant in-fighting between political factions and concentration of power in a relatively small number of people; overt resistance to accept the inquiry and an initial refusal to accept its conclusions.
Without going too deep into things, the system was radically overhauled. Resistance was broken when the Australian Sports Commission threatened to withdraw funding to Soccer Australia. The entire board resigned and an independent board headed by wealthy businessman Frank Lowry took over.
Today, 21/2 years on, the newly named Football Federation of Australia is financially stable.
It oversees all Australian national soccer teams and national coaching programs. It co-ordinates state and territorial governing bodies and the national club competition.
The new stability and the elimination of bickering and vested interests has also restored the confidence of the business community, so sponsorship money is flowing in.
And the Australian national team is thriving. So can this sort of approach work in Canada? Certainly the unrest is out there.
Websites are abuzz with "I told you so" comments about the power wielded by presidents of provincial and territory soccer associations that has stifled growth of the national game for at least 25 years.
The rank and file are saddened at Linford for giving up in his efforts to drag the game out of the dark ages so we can have national teams to be proud of.
The Voyageur Canadian Soccer Supporters website has plenty to say, none of it complimentary. There is fury and a growing swell of support behind any sort of movement to oust those in control.
There is even a suggestion that every fan wear black when Canada's men play Costa Rica in Toronto on Sept. 12.
I know how I feel. I have a clear understanding of how Colin Linford feels. I wish I knew how Fred Nykamp, who quit as head of Basketball Canada to take over as chief executive officer of the CSA and now appears to have no job at all, feels. And I know how fans feel. We're all disgusted.
I hate even thinking this, but it's time for a full-scale revolt if we want to rescue our international future.
If this had happened with Hockey Canada, there would have been blood on the streets.
The most pressing question remains how receptive the present CSA board would be to change, to an independent review. Who would call for it? Who would run it? Would government step in?
I would love to believe that the provincial presidents would count it a blessing to be left to run their own provinces, which, after all, they perhaps rightly consider to be their primary mandate.
Wearing both hats has built in conflict-of-interest problems that is more the fault of the system than the individuals. So let's change it. Let's be proud of our national teams again. That was what Linford wanted all along.
He tried radical reform in the most open fashion possible and paid a penalty he never deserved. He was left to fight alone to steer the CSA away from the "kitchen-table" organization it has always been and into the professional, business operation it needs to be.
He began with unbridled enthusiasm that he could turn Canada into a respected soccer nation, a World Cup final regular, not an international embarrassment. It was too tough a fight for one man.
Richard Starnes' Beautiful Game column appears Saturdays. Send comments and suggestions to rstarnes@thecitizen.canwest.com or sportsletters@thecitizen.canwest.com .
Find his blog at ottawacitizen.com .
Richard Starnes
The Ottawa Citizen
Saturday, September 01, 2007
If you were driving through downtown Ottawa earlier this week and you heard a loud bang followed by huge clouds of black smoke, it was because the roof had just caved in on the Canadian Soccer Association's Metcalfe Street headquarters.
Colin Linford's abrupt and unhappy resignation had sent and still is sending waves of disgruntled reaction through soccer circles, not only in Ottawa, but also across the country.
Revolt was in the air. How to be revolting, though, that was the question?
Then, on Thursday night, I found a blue print for change from Australia, a country that until Jan. 1, 2005, ran its national soccer association in very much the same way as Canada does.
State associations ran their states and held all the power at the national level, too. It was a recipe for mediocrity and conflict, and Australia was, indeed, a mediocre soccer nation.
Just like here, there was mass support for the game at the grassroots, but it never translated into national success. Just like here, Australia -- the Socceroos as they call them -- was condemned to international backwaters.
How familiar that sounds.
The Crawford Report -- ordered by the Australian government and completed by four independent committee members, including the retired national chairman of KPMG -- was the catalyst for change.
The report said a series of incidents had highlighted the critical state of soccer in Australia: the Socceroos failed to qualify for the World Cup or Confederations Cup because there was no money to bring European-based players back for matches; an Australian Broadcasting Corp. investigation found conflicts of interest and mismanagement at board level; constant in-fighting between political factions and concentration of power in a relatively small number of people; overt resistance to accept the inquiry and an initial refusal to accept its conclusions.
Without going too deep into things, the system was radically overhauled. Resistance was broken when the Australian Sports Commission threatened to withdraw funding to Soccer Australia. The entire board resigned and an independent board headed by wealthy businessman Frank Lowry took over.
Today, 21/2 years on, the newly named Football Federation of Australia is financially stable.
It oversees all Australian national soccer teams and national coaching programs. It co-ordinates state and territorial governing bodies and the national club competition.
The new stability and the elimination of bickering and vested interests has also restored the confidence of the business community, so sponsorship money is flowing in.
And the Australian national team is thriving. So can this sort of approach work in Canada? Certainly the unrest is out there.
Websites are abuzz with "I told you so" comments about the power wielded by presidents of provincial and territory soccer associations that has stifled growth of the national game for at least 25 years.
The rank and file are saddened at Linford for giving up in his efforts to drag the game out of the dark ages so we can have national teams to be proud of.
The Voyageur Canadian Soccer Supporters website has plenty to say, none of it complimentary. There is fury and a growing swell of support behind any sort of movement to oust those in control.
There is even a suggestion that every fan wear black when Canada's men play Costa Rica in Toronto on Sept. 12.
I know how I feel. I have a clear understanding of how Colin Linford feels. I wish I knew how Fred Nykamp, who quit as head of Basketball Canada to take over as chief executive officer of the CSA and now appears to have no job at all, feels. And I know how fans feel. We're all disgusted.
I hate even thinking this, but it's time for a full-scale revolt if we want to rescue our international future.
If this had happened with Hockey Canada, there would have been blood on the streets.
The most pressing question remains how receptive the present CSA board would be to change, to an independent review. Who would call for it? Who would run it? Would government step in?
I would love to believe that the provincial presidents would count it a blessing to be left to run their own provinces, which, after all, they perhaps rightly consider to be their primary mandate.
Wearing both hats has built in conflict-of-interest problems that is more the fault of the system than the individuals. So let's change it. Let's be proud of our national teams again. That was what Linford wanted all along.
He tried radical reform in the most open fashion possible and paid a penalty he never deserved. He was left to fight alone to steer the CSA away from the "kitchen-table" organization it has always been and into the professional, business operation it needs to be.
He began with unbridled enthusiasm that he could turn Canada into a respected soccer nation, a World Cup final regular, not an international embarrassment. It was too tough a fight for one man.
Richard Starnes' Beautiful Game column appears Saturdays. Send comments and suggestions to rstarnes@thecitizen.canwest.com or sportsletters@thecitizen.canwest.com .
Find his blog at ottawacitizen.com .
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1 Hirschfeld, Lars GK
2 Imhof, Daniel D/M
3 Jazic, Ante D
4 Serioux, Adrian D/M
5 Hainault, Andre D
6 De Guzman, Julian M
7 Stalteri, Paul D/M
8 Bernier, Patrice M
9 Radzinski, Tomasz M/F
10 Friend, Rob F
11 Brennan, Jim D/M
12 Nakajima-Farran, Issey M
13 Hutchinson, Atiba D/M
14 De Rosario, Dwayne M/F
15 Occean, Olivier F
16 Gerba, Ali F
17 Hume, Iain M/F
18 Pozniak, Chris D/M
19 Harmse, Kevin M
22 Stamatopoulos, Kenny GK
1 Hirschfeld, Lars GK
2 Imhof, Daniel D/M
3 Jazic, Ante D
4 Serioux, Adrian D/M
5 Hainault, Andre D
6 De Guzman, Julian M
7 Stalteri, Paul D/M
8 Bernier, Patrice M
9 Radzinski, Tomasz M/F
10 Friend, Rob F
11 Brennan, Jim D/M
12 Nakajima-Farran, Issey M
13 Hutchinson, Atiba D/M
14 De Rosario, Dwayne M/F
15 Occean, Olivier F
16 Gerba, Ali F
17 Hume, Iain M/F
18 Pozniak, Chris D/M
19 Harmse, Kevin M
22 Stamatopoulos, Kenny GK
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Lui, il est indéci encore...JaY a écrit :Il manque Jonathan De GuzmanVicenç a écrit :Il manque Kluko et Nsaliwa...A part ça tout le monde semble être là.
Quel sera le prétexte de Hirschfeld pour manquer le match cette fois si
En espérant que son frère Julian lui inculque les bonnes valeurs de notre pays 
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Ben Knight, qui poste régulièrement sur les Voyageurs, a une nouvelle chronique sur l'événement:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/columnis ... 90752_5732
http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/columnis ... 90752_5732
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Sur TSN
Ce qui est inquiétant c'est les raisons de l'absence de Tam Nsaliwa qui semble dorénavant tombé dans les limbes de la règlementation de la FIFA. 
http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/?ID ... ame=soccer
ORONTO (CP) - Bolstered by a wave of MLS reinforcements, the Canadian men's soccer team is headed to Toronto for its first game in Canada's largest city since 2000.
The Sept. 12 game against Costa Rica at BMO Field is the first in Toronto for the Canadian men since a 0-0 tie with Mexico in a World Cup qualifier Nov. 15, 2000 at Varsity Stadium, which was subsequently demolished.
Since then, the Canadian men have played 53 internationals. There were games in Burnaby, B.C., (3), Kingston, Ont. (2), Edmonton (1) and Montreal (1) but the Canadian soccer road usually led overseas, with stops in Austria, Barbados, Bermuda, Czech Republic, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Guatemala, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Jamaica, Japan, Libya, Luxembourg, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, the U.S., Venezuela and Wales.
Lack of a proper stadium kept Canada away. But now BMO Field beckons and coach Dale Mitchell says his players are happy to be coming back to Toronto.
''If you go through the roster, a lot of our players, and a lot of our key players as well, are from the Toronto area,'' he said Wednesday. ''I know that a lot of them are excited to be playing in their home town.
''And there's obviously been a lot of support for soccer in Toronto during the last six months and we're certainly hoping that continues with the national team on Wednesday against Costa Rica.''
Costa Rica is ranked 66th in the world, 15 places above Canada.
Mitchell, no doubt, will be looking to erase memories of a lopsided 3-0 loss to Chile at BMO Field on July 1 at the FIFA U-20 World Cup.
The Costa Rica game is the second for Mitchell as coach of the senior side, following a 1-1 tie in Iceland on Aug. 22
It is also the first game for Canada since the resignation of Colin Linford as president of the Canadian Soccer Association, leaving the governing body without a president, chief operating officer and technical director.
Mitchell opted to select European-based players for the Iceland game, saying he would turn to MLS talent for Costa Rica. He lived up to that promise Wednesday, including seven MLS players in his 20-man squad.
Mitchell was unable to bring in defender Kevin McKenna (FC Koln, Germany) and defender-midfielder Mike Klukowski (Club Brugge, Belgium), saying their clubs had requested they stay at home.
''We didn't push it at this time to get them in,'' Mitchell explained. ''We want to keep the relationship going and down the road, as it starts to get more important, we're going to want to see these guys more. But right now their clubs were a little reluctant to release them.''
Defender Richard Hastings (Inverness, Scotland) is still out with an injury suffered training with Canada on the eve of the Iceland game.
And midfielder Tam Nsaliwa (AEK, Greece) is in limbo when it comes to Canada thanks to what Mitchell calls ''an issue'' with his citizenship.
Born in Malawi, Nsaliwa came to Halifax with his family when he was eight before moving to Edmonton. The Canadian international played club soccer extensively in Germany before moving to Greece.
''It's fairly complicated,'' Mitchell said. ''He's playing as an EU (European Union) player in Europe. In order to do that he became a German citizen and there's some question about his Canadian citizenship now. We want to resolve it as quickly as we can, if we can.''
MLS players on the roster include midfielder Kevin Harmse and defender Ante Jazic (Los Angeles Galaxy), midfielder Dwayne De Rosario (Houston Dynamo), defender Adrian Serioux (FC Dallas) and goalkeeper Kenny Stamatopoulos, defender Jim Brennan and defender-midfielder Chris Pozniak (Toronto FC).
Toronto coach Mo Johnston was unhappy with the Canadian national team's lack of a travelling doctor when starting goalkeeper Greg Sutton was injured in early June training with Canada at the Gold Cup. But his anger appears to have subsided.
''I'm happy for them to go,'' Johnston said in a statement. ''Hopefully they can play 90 minutes and get a good game under their belt.''
Mitchell could elect to play Lars Hirschfeld in goal against Costa Rica, keeping Stamatopoulos safe on the bench. Stamatopoulos has taken over the starting job in Toronto from Sutton, who is out for the season.
The Costa Rica roster includes veteran striker Tomasz Radzinski, who recently signed with Xanthi in Greece.
http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/?ID ... ame=soccer
ORONTO (CP) - Bolstered by a wave of MLS reinforcements, the Canadian men's soccer team is headed to Toronto for its first game in Canada's largest city since 2000.
The Sept. 12 game against Costa Rica at BMO Field is the first in Toronto for the Canadian men since a 0-0 tie with Mexico in a World Cup qualifier Nov. 15, 2000 at Varsity Stadium, which was subsequently demolished.
Since then, the Canadian men have played 53 internationals. There were games in Burnaby, B.C., (3), Kingston, Ont. (2), Edmonton (1) and Montreal (1) but the Canadian soccer road usually led overseas, with stops in Austria, Barbados, Bermuda, Czech Republic, Egypt, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Guatemala, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Jamaica, Japan, Libya, Luxembourg, Malta, Northern Ireland, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, the U.S., Venezuela and Wales.
Lack of a proper stadium kept Canada away. But now BMO Field beckons and coach Dale Mitchell says his players are happy to be coming back to Toronto.
''If you go through the roster, a lot of our players, and a lot of our key players as well, are from the Toronto area,'' he said Wednesday. ''I know that a lot of them are excited to be playing in their home town.
''And there's obviously been a lot of support for soccer in Toronto during the last six months and we're certainly hoping that continues with the national team on Wednesday against Costa Rica.''
Costa Rica is ranked 66th in the world, 15 places above Canada.
Mitchell, no doubt, will be looking to erase memories of a lopsided 3-0 loss to Chile at BMO Field on July 1 at the FIFA U-20 World Cup.
The Costa Rica game is the second for Mitchell as coach of the senior side, following a 1-1 tie in Iceland on Aug. 22
It is also the first game for Canada since the resignation of Colin Linford as president of the Canadian Soccer Association, leaving the governing body without a president, chief operating officer and technical director.
Mitchell opted to select European-based players for the Iceland game, saying he would turn to MLS talent for Costa Rica. He lived up to that promise Wednesday, including seven MLS players in his 20-man squad.
Mitchell was unable to bring in defender Kevin McKenna (FC Koln, Germany) and defender-midfielder Mike Klukowski (Club Brugge, Belgium), saying their clubs had requested they stay at home.
''We didn't push it at this time to get them in,'' Mitchell explained. ''We want to keep the relationship going and down the road, as it starts to get more important, we're going to want to see these guys more. But right now their clubs were a little reluctant to release them.''
Defender Richard Hastings (Inverness, Scotland) is still out with an injury suffered training with Canada on the eve of the Iceland game.
And midfielder Tam Nsaliwa (AEK, Greece) is in limbo when it comes to Canada thanks to what Mitchell calls ''an issue'' with his citizenship.
Born in Malawi, Nsaliwa came to Halifax with his family when he was eight before moving to Edmonton. The Canadian international played club soccer extensively in Germany before moving to Greece.
''It's fairly complicated,'' Mitchell said. ''He's playing as an EU (European Union) player in Europe. In order to do that he became a German citizen and there's some question about his Canadian citizenship now. We want to resolve it as quickly as we can, if we can.''
MLS players on the roster include midfielder Kevin Harmse and defender Ante Jazic (Los Angeles Galaxy), midfielder Dwayne De Rosario (Houston Dynamo), defender Adrian Serioux (FC Dallas) and goalkeeper Kenny Stamatopoulos, defender Jim Brennan and defender-midfielder Chris Pozniak (Toronto FC).
Toronto coach Mo Johnston was unhappy with the Canadian national team's lack of a travelling doctor when starting goalkeeper Greg Sutton was injured in early June training with Canada at the Gold Cup. But his anger appears to have subsided.
''I'm happy for them to go,'' Johnston said in a statement. ''Hopefully they can play 90 minutes and get a good game under their belt.''
Mitchell could elect to play Lars Hirschfeld in goal against Costa Rica, keeping Stamatopoulos safe on the bench. Stamatopoulos has taken over the starting job in Toronto from Sutton, who is out for the season.
The Costa Rica roster includes veteran striker Tomasz Radzinski, who recently signed with Xanthi in Greece.
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Combien en français / au Québec ?Daniel a écrit :À noter que le mouvement supporters est mentionné dans presque tous les previews de match.
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